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According to Castro, Cuban officials recreated the circumstances of Kennedy's shooting after the assassination. "It wasn't possible for one man to do," he says. (Claudia Daut/Reuters)Fidel Castro shares at least one belief with the majority of Americans: He is convinced that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy was not the work of a lone gunman, but was the culmination of a broad conspiracy. According to a recent Gallup poll, 61 percent of Americans believe Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone in Dallas 50 years ago. But Castro suspects that Oswald might not have been involved in the assassination at all. Here is what he told me–to my great surprise–over lunch one day in Havana: “I have reached the conclusion that Oswald could not have been the one who killed Kennedy.” Castro is of course a confident man, but he said this with a degree of surety that was noteworthy.
I was visiting Havana three years ago at Castro’s invitation. I had just written acover story for The Atlantic about Israel’s threat to strike militarily at Iran’s nuclear facilities. Castro read the article, and sent me a message through the Cuban Interest Section in Washington: He would like me to come to Cuba as soon as possible in order to discuss my findings with him. I obliged.
Kennedy was only a peripheral subject of our discussions. Castro, I found, was preoccupied with the threat of nuclear war and proliferation, as one would expect him to be: He was one of the three key players in an episode, the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, that nearly brought about the destruction of the planet. John F. Kennedy was his adversary; Nikita Khrushchev, the Soviet premier, was his patron. At one point, I mentioned to him the letter he wrote to Khrushchev, at the height of the crisis, in which he asked the Soviets to consider launching a nuclear strike against the U.S. if the Americans attacked Cuba. "That would be the time to think about liquidating such a danger forever through a legal right of self-defense," he wrote. In Havana, I asked him, “At a certain point it seemed logical for you to recommend that the Soviets bomb the U.S. Does what you recommended still seem logical now?" He answered: "After I've seen what I've seen, and knowing what I know now, it wasn't worth it at all.” I expressed relief that Khrushchev ignored his request.
Castro was also deeply concerned about the level of anti-Semitic rhetoric emanating from Tehran, and wanted to communicate his displeasure to then-president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, through an intermediary. (I wrote about Fidel’s views of Iran and Israel here). Jeffrey Goldberg, Celia Guevara, and Fidel Castro at a dolphin show in HavanaI brought with me on this trip a friend named Julia Sweig, who is a preeminent expert on Cuba at the Council on Foreign Relations. Julia and I wound up spending the better part of a week with Fidel. (You can read about our trip to watch a dolphin show at the Havana aquarium with Fidel and Che Guevara’s daughter here.) By the time of our meetings with Fidel, he was recovering from a serious illness, and he was already semi-retired. His brother, Raul, was running the country, although I was under the clear impression that nothing important happened in Havana without the assent of Raul’s older brother.
One afternoon, after a marathon interview session, we gathered for lunch—Castro, his wife, Dalia, his son Antonio, a couple of aides, Julia, a translator, and myself—and an expansive Castro told stories of the early days of the revolution, and entertained a series of random questions from us. I knew, from Julia, who has studied Castro for years, that J.F.K was seldom too far from his thoughts, but our discussion of U.S. policy actually began with other presidents. Castro spoke about a biography of Lincoln he had just read.
“Is Lincoln the most interesting American to you?” I asked.
“No,” he said, “but much more than Washington.”
“Much more than Kennedy?” I asked.
“Yes,” he said, but unconvincingly. “Kennedy made many mistakes. He was young and dramatic.” Fidel reserved his animus mainly for Robert Kennedy, who was attorney general in his brother’s administration and loathed Fidel and his revolution. It was Robert Kennedy, Fidel believes, who was behind U.S. plots to have him assassinated. But he blames J.F.K. for the invasion, by a ragtag Cuban exile army, of the Bay of Pigs. “Kennedy was humiliated by his defeat at the Bay of Pigs, but all that we did was to protect ourselves.”
Then Castro began talking about J.F.K.’s assassination. “It is a very sad story,” he said. “It was a very sad day when it happened.” He said he remembered the moment he heard of the shooting. “I won’t forget it. As soon as we heard, we all rushed to the radio to listen.”
Self-preservation was also on his mind in the days after the assassination. He understood, he said, that he would be blamed for J.F.K.’s death, especially after it was learned that Oswald had vociferously opposed American policy toward Castro’s Cuba. Castro tried hard to communicate to the Americans that he had nothing to do with J.F.K.’s death, and as Philip Shenon reports in his new book,A Cruel and Shocking Act: The Secret History of the Kennedy Assassination, Fidel even arranged to be interviewed by a Warren Commission staffer on a yacht in the water off Cuba. “Immediately after the assassination, Castro very justifiably worried that he would be blamed, and he was worried that if he were blamed, there would be an American invasion of Cuba,” Shenon told me. But Castro’s denials were credible, Shenon said. Despite the many arguments advanced by conspiracy theorists, he said, “there is no credible evidence that Castro was involved personally in ordering the assassination.”
Whether Fidel’s agents or sympathizers encouraged Oswald, on a visit to Mexico, to assassinate J.F.K., is another question, one that Shenon explores in his book. “My question is whether people thinking that they were acting in Castro’s best interest might have provided the motivation,” he said. The second question: Whether Oswald believed that killing Kennedy was what Fidel Castro wanted him to do. “In September of 1963, Castro gives an interview to the AP in Havana in which he seems to suggest that Kennedy’s life is at risk: ‘I know the Americans are trying to kill me and if this continues there will be retribution,’ was the message," Shenon said. "This report runs in the New Orleans Times-Picayune, and Oswald reads the Times-Picayune avidly. Perhaps Oswald said, ‘Ah ha, I’m going to kill Kennedy.’”
This is what might be called the Jodie Foster theory of the Kennedy assassination: Oswald sought to demonstrate his loyalty to the man he admired above all others, Fidel Castro, by killing the president.
Fidel told us at lunch—as he would—that none of his associates or officials had anything to do with the assassination, and that the Cuban embassy in Mexico City, which Oswald had visited, denied him permission to visit Cuba, fearing that he was a provocateur.
I asked Fidel why he thought Oswald could not have acted alone. He proceeded to tell the table a long and discursive story about an experiment he staged, after the assassination, to see if it were possible for a sniper to shoot Kennedy in the manner the assassination was alleged to have happened. “We had trained our people in the mountains during the war”—the Cuban revolution—“on these kind of telescopic sights. So we knew about this kind of shooting. We tried to recreate the circumstances of this shooting, but it wasn’t possible for one man to do. The news I had received is that one man killed Kennedy in his car with a rifle, but I deducted that this story was manufactured to fool people.”
He said his suspicions grew especially pronounced after Oswald was killed. “There was the story of Jack Ruby, who was said to be so moved by the death of Kennedy that he decided to shoot Oswald on his own. That was just unbelievable to us.”
I then asked Castro to tell us what he believes actually happened. I brought up the name of his friend, Oliver Stone, who suggested that it was the CIA and a group of anti-Castro Cubans (I used the term “anti-you Cubans” to describe these forces aligned against Castro) that plotted the assassination.
“Quite possibly,” he said. “This is quite possibly so. There were people in the American government who thought Kennedy was a traitor because he didn’t invade Cuba when he had the chance, when they were asking him. He was never forgiven for that.”
So that’s what you think might have happened?
“No doubt about it,” Fidel answered.
We talked a bit more about Kennedy and his legacy. He told us about his many subsequent contacts with members of Kennedy’s family, including with Maria Shriver. “She’s the one who married Schwarzenegger,” he said. “The world is a very small place.”
We turned to other subjects, but Fidel came back to Kennedy once more, the next day, when he said to me, apropos of nothing, “Kennedy was very young.”
I later asked Julia Sweig what this might have meant. For Castro, she said, Kennedy may forever stand for something out of reach. “He’ll never know what would have happened had J.F.K. lived. He may have reserved for Kennedy in his own mind the possibility of greatness. It’s completely fascinating and frustrating to him.”
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here we go with The Men Who Killed Kennedy Episode 9.........this is copied from you-tube....... Talking about Bar McClellan and Roger Stone.
Really enjoyed Roger Stone's talk on Coast to Coast....Saturday night chatting about his new book The Man Who Killed Kennedy and his details about LBJ.
He referred to the show of The Men Who Killed Kennedy featuring the information of Barr McClellan......I thought that made much more sense than Oswald acting alone and Roger Stone's theory makes a lot of sense, too. Some of the info is the same.
I did see that on the 40th anniversary as an update of TMWKK.
That was never shown again as far as I know and immediately after that Frank Sesno went on the Hx channel with experts and if my memory serves me correctly Dalleck was one of them denouncing the whole thing and saying there was no evidence. Comments are welcome.
Its just odd that there are so many facts from Roger Stone and Mr McClellan. It would be interesting to see if all of these facts about LBJ pointed out by these two experts could be proved false--they really make more sense than the Oswald philosophy.
This is my point: why can't this go forward? Is it because unless you can prove it absolutely beyond any shadow of a doubt it will be nixed out of respect for Johnson's daughters?
Because I guess how can the government say......oh well, we are so corrupt we let one president kill another. Seriously, how can they say that to Caroline Kennedy.
There are too many facts....Bill Hemmer on Fox--an informant has Marcello saying he did it, but they will not release the tapes, so is that wrong, too.
Is everything wrong but Oswald?
And then the Bill O'Reilly thing...so many people believe him. This is frustrating......I think the facts are there but they just cannot get it together basically through disinformation.....or from too many conflicting facts....can we ever gel this thing up, or what?
A simple explanation...J. Gary Shaw said it was basically a turkey shoot in Dallas....there were many factions angry about his arrogance.
Barr and Roger basically have the same story as E. Howard Hunt and I do not know why that is not taken more seriously, also. I believe Hunt names Cord Meyer.....and that man certainly had motive....the Kennedys were wonderful but also very unapologizingly arrogant.
It seems like many knew it was going to happen but kind of looked the other way.....thanks for your time.
-- chloelouise.....please comment....welcome disagreement. from you-tube, this is an interview with Barr McClellan.......
All three major cable news networks broke into regularly scheduled programming Tuesday afternoon to carry the live arraignment of George Zimmerman following his arrest Monday for aggravated assault, battery domestic violence and criminal mischief.
Zimmerman’s bail was set at $9,000, he was ordered to wear an electronic monitoring device and stay at least 1,500 feet away from the residence where the incident occurred. The judge declared he would be denied the use of guns until the issue is resolved. In addition, prosecutors revealed that Zimmerman’s girlfriend Samantha Scheibe reported to them another choking incident that occurred one week earlier.
Immediately following the arraignment, Geraldo Rivera shared his thoughts about Zimmerman on Fox News. “My basic reaction is that this man is hanging by a string. I think that he is a borderline psychotic at this point,” he said. Rivera described Zimmerman as “a person who has so immersed himself in the gun culture.” And while “He was lionized by many–by some at least–as a hero, he has no clear direction in his life… I think he’s a very, very dangerous person and he could hurt this woman.”
At the same time, Rivera added, “Given the weight of the evidence, the judge was prudent in this case. He was not at all punitive to George Zimmerman. He could have hit him with a much higher bail. He could kept him with no bail because of the risk of violence to this woman.”
Looking at the latest incident in relation to the Trayvon Martin case, Rivera asked, “How much of this acting out now is a function of the trauma he went through in that event, and how much of this person was present the night Trayvon Martin lost his life?”
The Rolling Stones announce 2014 Australia date; ex-member Mick Taylor to be special guest
Associated Press - FILE - In this June 29, 2013 file photo Mick Jagger, center, Ronnie Wood, left, and Mick Taylor, of British rock band The Rolling Stones, perform on the Pyramid main stage at Glastonbury, England. The Rolling Stones on Tuesday, Nov. 19, 2013 announced they’ll be playing a gig March 22, 2014 at the Adelaide Oval in Australia. The band hasn’t played the country since 2006. A news release says former member Taylor will be a special guest for the concert. (Photo by Joel Ryan/Invision/AP, File)
By Associated Press, Published: November 19 | Updated: Wednesday, November 20, 6:42 AM
The Rolling Stones are headed to Australia, and they’re taking Mick Taylor along.
The enduring rock ‘n’ roll favorites announced Tuesday they’ll be playing a gig March 22 at the Adelaide Oval. They haven’t played in Australia since 2006. A news release says ex-member Taylor will be a special guest for the concert.
The date is the latest on the 50 and Counting tour, a celebration of the five decades Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Charlie Watts have been together. Ronnie Wood joined in the ‘70s. The tour began last November.
The Stones will be the first entertainment event at the Oval, a sports field that’s undergone a refurbishment. It’s been nearly two decades since the band visited Adelaide, leading Richards to say, “It’s been awhile, right?” in a promo video.
Just wanted to let everyone know of my very good car rental rate from AAA.
All of a sudden I had to make a trip from San Diego to the mid west.....right, I don't mind driving because I had to take my dog.
Love to book and plan my own trips, searching the Internet and finding the best but when it comes to car rental I have found that auto club seems to have much better rates and access consistently for car rental.
Now, I just call them first because looking around endlessly myself results in just a big waste of time.
Ended up talking to Bobbi at the Costa Mesa, California office.
She did all of the calling, she was friendly and knowledgeable--did not mind chatting and taking her time to find the best price.
128.00 for one week on the car rental.....I did not think I could beat that myself.
Here is the good news, I really did not have to do anything as in give my credit card or make any calls--just show up and pick up the car.
I don't know if people in South Park San Diego realize it is a very easy and inexpensive bus ride to the airport. 4.00 and it is just about as easy as a taxi ride. It is easy to find the route on google.
My car was a Nissan....maybe Versa...not the smallest.
My own car never would have made the trip and the doggie boy was comfy.
I brought the car back one day late.....my charge ended up being 96.00
Just wanted to say thank you to Bobbi in the Costa Mesa Auto Club for getting me all fixed up.
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Bill O’Reilly said Monday night he admires Oprah Winfrey, but she’s dead wrong to say many Americans “disrespect”President Obama because of his race. He said she has a “blind spot when it comes to politics,” and noted there was plenty of criticism of George W. Bush when he was in office. O’Reilly argued that Oprah’s “making an excuse” for Obama by saying it’s not just the “lunatic fringe,” but a significant portion of the country, that has a racial resentment of the president.
Professor Charles Ogletree backed up Oprah’s comments, arguing that while Obama’s the “Teflon president” when it comes to deflecting race-based attacks, there’s a lot of vitriol directed his way. O’Reilly shot back, “Those people have been marginalized by me and others.”
Ogletree went off on all the attacks on Obama, from birtherism to Donald Trump pushing some nonsense about Obama’s college transcripts, but O’Reilly kept pressing him to name a legitimate news outlet that pushed Obama conspiracies. He cried, “You’re pointing to kooks! You’re pointing to individual kooks!”
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