Shock-jock, chip franklin of hate radio KOGO 600 in San Diego successfully teaches violence to his son.
Well,
I thought kids were off limits, but since you brought it up....since
you brought it up and bragged about it on the radio then laughed.
Apparently his son ran into a person in the Occupy Movement who was
blocking his way to class... the son could not find a way around the
person...allegedly ...so he knocked him down. Mr. Franklin did say he
instructed his son not to go around knocking people down, yet he
mentioned it on the radio in a proud, bragging fashion and then
continued to laugh it off as if it was a humerus event. "Oh, and my
son is very big!" Wow chip, my daughter is very small but she has a
real big mouth--will he be knocking her down, too? I will take this
opportunity to remind chip after some people must have complained, maybe
the time he wanted Gloria Alllred to be body slammed, he insisted no
one but a moron would take him seriously......... Now chip, what if
that was me in the Occupy group, or what if that was one of my
children? Better yet, chip, what if that was one of your other
children? chip...I'm asking you...as a mom. I know you love your
children, It's obvious by the way you talk, but I love my children,
too. Please don't teach them to knock people around. All of our
children make errors and might get into a fight. That young man was
beaten to death on the bus in Florida--I'm so sad for those
parents--chip, what if that was your son? Let's stop that horrible kind
of action. Lets not promote a sentiment of violence among young
people. Its too sad in the long run. I've told you, chip, so many
times in my blog, let's not make violence or vigilante justice an
acceptable way to solve our differences. Are those your actual
beliefs, then, if you are bragging and laughing about your son's actions
on the air? You are certainly not taking his violence seriously. I
guess your kid figured the Occupy kid was wrong--so rather than let the
student talk or contemplate a different view, he knocked him down and proudly reported his remedy to dad.
Remember when you wanted the "ass-kicking" for the Asian lady, the
politician in San Francisco who would not say the Pledge of Allegiance?
Now, lets see if this incident will be erased from the podcast, too.--
chloelouise--a mom asking for non-violence
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May 10, 2012
chip franklin and violence on the airwaves
Sometimes a public figure, a congressman, a prominent female attorney
will make a comment that he does not like; they say something he really
finds offensive. He will then describe a violent physical act that he
would like to do to the person or he feels should be done to the
person. He justifies it always by saying everyone knows he does not
really mean those words.
Unless the person was really unintelligent, no one would take him literally. I found it extremely offensive for him to talk this way about a lady my age. Someone who in reality would probably be very defenseless against him physically.
He paints a very ugly picture with his words. A picture I hear in the morning when I am waking up. Are these images then detrimental to some people? Are the airwaves too violent?
Its embarrassing to me--to hear a lady, successful, my age, referred to in these terms. I think if he was really intelligent, innovative or forward thinking he could use other words to describe his disagreement without mentioning violence.
Are these the policies or views of the radio station?
Unless the person was really unintelligent, no one would take him literally. I found it extremely offensive for him to talk this way about a lady my age. Someone who in reality would probably be very defenseless against him physically.
He paints a very ugly picture with his words. A picture I hear in the morning when I am waking up. Are these images then detrimental to some people? Are the airwaves too violent?
Its embarrassing to me--to hear a lady, successful, my age, referred to in these terms. I think if he was really intelligent, innovative or forward thinking he could use other words to describe his disagreement without mentioning violence.
Are these the policies or views of the radio station?
May 4, 2012
Democratic Ball and Chain Bill Maher Should Apologize to Sarah Palin
Democratic Ball and Chain Bill Maher Should Apologize to Sarah Palin and Dr. Drew Should Stop Drinking The Kool-Aide
My prediction is that it's just a matter of time before we have to suffer another "controversial" episode by Bill Maher. His big money donation was just a thin veil for his own self-promotion. He is the one I am actually offended by the most. To me, he is a ball and chain for the dems. Then, as if this is news, what he said will have to be discussed again, because he gave the money. His mom needs to speak to him, or some mom, let it be me--because he is out of line and he does need to apologize to Sarah Palin. He is particularly annoying because he tried to cover his remark with humor and get everyone to laugh with him like it was okay because it was funny. Then he went on Dr. Drew and bragged about being a "potty mouth." Talk about drinking the kool-aid; I'm still disappointed with Dr. Drew because many young people look to him for guidance--he almost sets the example for how to think with a certain group of people.
I do not agree with Sarah Palin politically, however, I enjoyed watching her on Fox News the other evening. I admire her strength in standing up for what she says and her interest in politics. To me she is a strong women and a good mom--I want to hear what she has to say even though I will not vote for her. I like the political conversation and I think it moves things forward.
My prediction is that it's just a matter of time before we have to suffer another "controversial" episode by Bill Maher. His big money donation was just a thin veil for his own self-promotion. He is the one I am actually offended by the most. To me, he is a ball and chain for the dems. Then, as if this is news, what he said will have to be discussed again, because he gave the money. His mom needs to speak to him, or some mom, let it be me--because he is out of line and he does need to apologize to Sarah Palin. He is particularly annoying because he tried to cover his remark with humor and get everyone to laugh with him like it was okay because it was funny. Then he went on Dr. Drew and bragged about being a "potty mouth." Talk about drinking the kool-aid; I'm still disappointed with Dr. Drew because many young people look to him for guidance--he almost sets the example for how to think with a certain group of people.
I do not agree with Sarah Palin politically, however, I enjoyed watching her on Fox News the other evening. I admire her strength in standing up for what she says and her interest in politics. To me she is a strong women and a good mom--I want to hear what she has to say even though I will not vote for her. I like the political conversation and I think it moves things forward.
Apr 26, 2012
Jack Lessenberry opines weekly for Detroit's Metro Times.---I copied this from Smirking Chimp
by Jack Lessenberry | April 25, 2012 - 9:17am
"Want to know how unhappy I am with the constant
stream of lies and smears told by the Republicans? How angry at their open threats to take away reproduction rights and the health-care safety net Americans finally won? Not to mention their gleeful, open intention to continue stealing from the poor to give to the rich. Well, let's put it this way: If Mitt Romney becomes the president in November, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. And if you can't go home and get everybody in your lives to clean house in this vile, evil, America-hating party ...
I don't know what you are made out of."
Outrageous words? Damn right. Had I written them a few weeks ago, my guess is that my editors at the Metro Times never would have printed them. Besides being badly written and grammatically incorrect, they are pretty close to a threat to incite violence, possibly against the president of the United States, which is against federal law.
But these aren't my words at all. They are a near-exact quote from Ted Nugent, an aging minor rocker who is better known these days as a gun nut. Nugent, who especially loves to kill defenseless animals, said the outrageous words above in a video posted on YouTube. All I did was substitute "Mitt Romney" for "Barack Obama," and "party" for "administration." His outburst earned him a visit from the Secret Service, at which Nugent rolled on his back like a frightened puppy, whimpering, "I have never made any threats of violence against anyone. God bless the good federal agents."
By the end of the week, the fading Motor City Madman had other things to think about; he was off pleading guilty to transporting an illegally killed bear in Alaska, and cutting a deal to stay out of jail.
The problem, however, is far deeper than Nugent. There are an alarming number of nasty and crazy right-wing nuts out there, many of whom clearly cannot tolerate that an African-American is the president of the United States.
They spew a torrent of lies and hate onto the Internet and the airwaves, when broadcasters let them on. They are spurred on by unscrupulous showmen like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and their imitators, and have been given aid and comfort by many Republican candidates, some at the highest level. Far from denouncing and disavowing them, which is what any decent Republican would have been expected to do a half-century ago, they slyly encourage them.
Take Newt Gingrich, a brawling, grossly pathetic has-been who is still running for the GOP presidential nomination, even though any chance of his winning evaporated weeks ago.
Newt recently told ABC News that he finds it "very bizarre" that the president is "desperately concerned to apologize to Muslim religious fanatics." He added that the Obama administration was "going to war against the Catholic Church and against every right-to-life Protestant organization in the country."
Both those statements are not even subjective; they are demonstrably untrue. Yet that is just the kind of rhetoric that could easily get some troubled young fanatic fired up.
Yet nothing will happen to Gingrich. Before Rick Santorum pulled out of the race, he took target practice at a shooting range where a woman hollered, "Pretend it's Obama."
He later said he didn't hear her. However, when another woman in a town hall meeting told Santorum that the president was "an avowed Muslim," he did not correct her. Instead, he just said, "Believe me, I'm doing anything I can to get him out of the government."
These incidents are just the tip of the iceberg. Besides writing this column, I am the ombudsman for an Ohio newspaper, the Toledo Blade. In that capacity, I receive torrents of right-wing attacks on the president, many filled with hatred, thinly veiled racism and rage.
Recently I got bombarded from an "open letter" from one Lou Pritchett, a former
soap salesman who rose to become a Procter & Gamble vice president. It begins: "Dear President Obama; You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and, unlike any of the others, you truly scare me."
Really? The soap salesman wasn't bothered by John F. Kennedy taking us to the brink of nuclear war? Not worried by the possibility that the felonious Richard Nixon might try some kind of a coup when he was about to be removed from office? Not worried about Lyndon Johnson bombing Vietnam back to the Stone Age?
Having demonstrated that he is clueless, Pritchett goes on to list a whole lot of reasons why he is scared of Obama, including that "culturally you are not an American." That settles that.
Incidentally, it turns out that soap man wrote this letter back in May of 2009, when President Obama had barely been in office four months. There are many similar rants. One Joe Quinn, apparently of Toledo, tells me in the course of a long letter that "the list of [Obama's] atrocities against the American people is too long to list here." However, he does disclose that if he is re-elected, "he will be much freer to completely transform America into a socialist state."
Well, we can only hope, but my guess is the Republicans in Congress might raise some mild objections.
There are, in fact. legitimate conservative arguments that can be made against the president's policies. The huge deficits are frightening, and it is fair to challenge the assumptions of his health care plan or his foreign policy in an intellectually legitimate way
But by not repudiating the racists, the crazies, and those filled with hate, today's GOP is giving up any claim to legitimacy. Not to mention taking a serious risk of having blood on their hands.
Consent Agreement update: Last week, as I was watching the Detroit City Council refusing to agree on salaries for the new positions the "consent agreement" is supposed to create, a ghastly Kennedy assassination metaphor popped into my mind.
It was the scene from William Manchester's classic book The Death of a President, when they rush the dying John F. Kennedy into the emergency room at Parkland Memorial Hospital. Had he been anybody else, they would have put a tag on his toes. Seeing that he was the president, however, they hooked him up to machines and started blood transfusions. Alas, the blood just flowed out of the immense hole in the side of his head just as fast as it went in.
Which brings us to the city. Detroit was supposed to create two new powerful positions, program manager and chief financial officer, within a week and fill them within a month. But this now seems hopelessly behind schedule. The first three members were named to the overseeing financial advisory board last week.
They were strong names. But there are six more to come, two to be named by the governor and two by Mayor Bing, who tends to move slowly, and two by a City Council that seems to usually have great difficulty deciding what day of the week it is.
I've been asking a number of high-ranking and high-placed politicians and corporate executives whether they thought the consent agreement would work — or whether Detroit eventually would be forced to face an emergency manager, go through bankruptcy, or both. I asked them all to tell me off the record.
But I can reveal the names of those who think the consent agreement is likely to succeed. Ready? OK. Here they are:
See you next week.
by Jack Lessenberry | April 25, 2012 - 9:17am
"Want to know how unhappy I am with the constant
stream of lies and smears told by the Republicans? How angry at their open threats to take away reproduction rights and the health-care safety net Americans finally won? Not to mention their gleeful, open intention to continue stealing from the poor to give to the rich. Well, let's put it this way: If Mitt Romney becomes the president in November, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. And if you can't go home and get everybody in your lives to clean house in this vile, evil, America-hating party ...
I don't know what you are made out of."
Outrageous words? Damn right. Had I written them a few weeks ago, my guess is that my editors at the Metro Times never would have printed them. Besides being badly written and grammatically incorrect, they are pretty close to a threat to incite violence, possibly against the president of the United States, which is against federal law.
But these aren't my words at all. They are a near-exact quote from Ted Nugent, an aging minor rocker who is better known these days as a gun nut. Nugent, who especially loves to kill defenseless animals, said the outrageous words above in a video posted on YouTube. All I did was substitute "Mitt Romney" for "Barack Obama," and "party" for "administration." His outburst earned him a visit from the Secret Service, at which Nugent rolled on his back like a frightened puppy, whimpering, "I have never made any threats of violence against anyone. God bless the good federal agents."
By the end of the week, the fading Motor City Madman had other things to think about; he was off pleading guilty to transporting an illegally killed bear in Alaska, and cutting a deal to stay out of jail.
The problem, however, is far deeper than Nugent. There are an alarming number of nasty and crazy right-wing nuts out there, many of whom clearly cannot tolerate that an African-American is the president of the United States.
They spew a torrent of lies and hate onto the Internet and the airwaves, when broadcasters let them on. They are spurred on by unscrupulous showmen like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and their imitators, and have been given aid and comfort by many Republican candidates, some at the highest level. Far from denouncing and disavowing them, which is what any decent Republican would have been expected to do a half-century ago, they slyly encourage them.
Take Newt Gingrich, a brawling, grossly pathetic has-been who is still running for the GOP presidential nomination, even though any chance of his winning evaporated weeks ago.
Newt recently told ABC News that he finds it "very bizarre" that the president is "desperately concerned to apologize to Muslim religious fanatics." He added that the Obama administration was "going to war against the Catholic Church and against every right-to-life Protestant organization in the country."
Both those statements are not even subjective; they are demonstrably untrue. Yet that is just the kind of rhetoric that could easily get some troubled young fanatic fired up.
Yet nothing will happen to Gingrich. Before Rick Santorum pulled out of the race, he took target practice at a shooting range where a woman hollered, "Pretend it's Obama."
He later said he didn't hear her. However, when another woman in a town hall meeting told Santorum that the president was "an avowed Muslim," he did not correct her. Instead, he just said, "Believe me, I'm doing anything I can to get him out of the government."
These incidents are just the tip of the iceberg. Besides writing this column, I am the ombudsman for an Ohio newspaper, the Toledo Blade. In that capacity, I receive torrents of right-wing attacks on the president, many filled with hatred, thinly veiled racism and rage.
Recently I got bombarded from an "open letter" from one Lou Pritchett, a former
soap salesman who rose to become a Procter & Gamble vice president. It begins: "Dear President Obama; You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and, unlike any of the others, you truly scare me."
Really? The soap salesman wasn't bothered by John F. Kennedy taking us to the brink of nuclear war? Not worried by the possibility that the felonious Richard Nixon might try some kind of a coup when he was about to be removed from office? Not worried about Lyndon Johnson bombing Vietnam back to the Stone Age?
Having demonstrated that he is clueless, Pritchett goes on to list a whole lot of reasons why he is scared of Obama, including that "culturally you are not an American." That settles that.
Incidentally, it turns out that soap man wrote this letter back in May of 2009, when President Obama had barely been in office four months. There are many similar rants. One Joe Quinn, apparently of Toledo, tells me in the course of a long letter that "the list of [Obama's] atrocities against the American people is too long to list here." However, he does disclose that if he is re-elected, "he will be much freer to completely transform America into a socialist state."
Well, we can only hope, but my guess is the Republicans in Congress might raise some mild objections.
There are, in fact. legitimate conservative arguments that can be made against the president's policies. The huge deficits are frightening, and it is fair to challenge the assumptions of his health care plan or his foreign policy in an intellectually legitimate way
But by not repudiating the racists, the crazies, and those filled with hate, today's GOP is giving up any claim to legitimacy. Not to mention taking a serious risk of having blood on their hands.
Consent Agreement update: Last week, as I was watching the Detroit City Council refusing to agree on salaries for the new positions the "consent agreement" is supposed to create, a ghastly Kennedy assassination metaphor popped into my mind.
It was the scene from William Manchester's classic book The Death of a President, when they rush the dying John F. Kennedy into the emergency room at Parkland Memorial Hospital. Had he been anybody else, they would have put a tag on his toes. Seeing that he was the president, however, they hooked him up to machines and started blood transfusions. Alas, the blood just flowed out of the immense hole in the side of his head just as fast as it went in.
Which brings us to the city. Detroit was supposed to create two new powerful positions, program manager and chief financial officer, within a week and fill them within a month. But this now seems hopelessly behind schedule. The first three members were named to the overseeing financial advisory board last week.
They were strong names. But there are six more to come, two to be named by the governor and two by Mayor Bing, who tends to move slowly, and two by a City Council that seems to usually have great difficulty deciding what day of the week it is.
I've been asking a number of high-ranking and high-placed politicians and corporate executives whether they thought the consent agreement would work — or whether Detroit eventually would be forced to face an emergency manager, go through bankruptcy, or both. I asked them all to tell me off the record.
But I can reveal the names of those who think the consent agreement is likely to succeed. Ready? OK. Here they are:
See you next week.
Apr 14, 2012
In Defense of Hilary Rosen, Ann Romney, Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, Deborah Wasserman Schultz, Bay Buchanan and Michelle Bachman, In Offense of Bill Maher
In Defense of Hilary Rosen, Ann Romney, Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton,
Deborah Wasserman Schultz, Bay Buchanan and Michelle Bachman, In
Offense of Bill Maher
by Chloelouise
As a single mom of 2 twenty something kids, 2 real old cats and one pit bull mix dog and a democrat who loves President Obama I would like to say that I admire Ann romney, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Hillary clinton, Hilary Rosen, Deborah Wasserman Schultz and all of the other strong women who give up their personal time to speak out on issues to move forward the political debate. If I do not like what they say I will not vote for them but I like to hear their ideas and information. All of my dem ideas may not be correct, they may need a republican adjustment. I'm with Karl Rove on this one--In the long run it is the political discussion that moves things forward. Bay Buchanan even came out on CNN to support Hilary Rosen. It was very noble and uplifting. Should the women completely take politics over now?
I do not like Bill Maher. I knew his big money donation would be trouble. He basically issued himself a license to let his mouth run without a filter. His goal is self promotion, not the betterment of individuals anywhere. I predict its just a matter of time before we have to suffer another insult and then listen to the media discuss it because he gave a big donation. When he insults women, particularly Sarah Palin, in this instance I take offense. What is really bad about Mr Maher is that he makes it seem cool to diminish women because he is funny. He sets the stage to get the boys to laugh at the girls. Its the wrong sentiment and we have plenty of right wing conservative radio hosts to jump on the band wagon. There is violence against women her in the US. I suggest that he finds new and less harmful material for his comedy routine. Then we had to listen to him ramble on further in the NYT about how he was in fact so funny and did not have to apologize. We paid a very high price for that donation.
Yesterday Hilary Rosen was talking about Ann Romney not actually working in a job at a facility or workplace receiving wages and every thing got so messed up.......
I'm just devastated by the fact that I am forced to disagree with some of my co-liberal dems. Believe it or not I actually like Ann Romney and I enjoy listening to her speak. The difference, for me, is a matter of time.
My daughter is still talking about the time when she was five years old and won an award, had to go up on stage all by herself--and you guessed it--I wasn't there. Why--because I could not get the time off work.
So then I spent a large part of my career being "per diem" so I could control my schedule in liew of benefits; or buy my own benefits, health insurance for the kids, which I often could not afford.
Let's see. I wonder if Ann Romney can afford health insurance or if she has time to attend the award ceremony?
I admire Ann Romney and I can't imagine raising five boys. I bet she does not have a knick-knack left standing in her house.
I heard Hillary Rosen say that comment on CNN yesterday and I knew it would be trouble. She has verified her intent of the statement talking about the actual workplace.
I'm sad about the misinterpretation for everyone. These are both fine, intelligent, well-spoken, hard working women with different political views.
And right now I'm not even going to get into trying to endure the beastliness of the other women at work.......
I have always enjoyed Hilary Rosen, particularly when she used to speak in favor of my girl, Hillary Clinton. I also want to remind people that Ann Romney has never suffered being taken into the office for "a talk." In other words, if you do not be quiet and be a cheer leader for the company, instead of verbalizing and noticing their inconsistencies, you may lose your job. So what is the decision--oh gee--I guess I'll be quiet so I will not be fired so I can pay my rent and feed my kids.
The media is way off on so many levels on this issue. Ann Romney can talk politically, at will. Most women I know cannot speak either because they do not have time or because they are in fear of losing their position and possibly their home because they are the sole provider. Ann Romney does not have to fear putting the well being of her loved ones in jeopardy because of calling in sick, getting in a fight at work, talking about the company at work, joining the union etc., etc., etc., etc.........
Ann Romney does not ever have to suffer the depression or stress of putting up with the work place. Thank God I did have children to cheer me up. Going to work for me has always been very, very hard and very, very stressful. Frankly, I am happy for Ann that she had a chance to raise her children and time to focus on their upbringing. I am sorry for her terrible illness.
Everyone is missing the point of the conversation. Hilary Rosen has even apologized, now.
I don't work now and I finally have time. My life is so incredible I can't believe it.
And also please remember what Hillary Clinton said. "I make that phone call every day at 3 o'clock to make sure my daughter got home from school safely." That was my whole life and that is the day I became a Hillary Clinton supporter no matter what.
Here is another good point. I have worked at places where they tried to force me to stay overtime and feel bad about it because I could not. I had to pick up my kids at the babysitter or daycare. You can't be late or the price skyrockets.
Its hard to have teenagers in the house all the time when you are at work.
Everything gets so mixed up because there is no time---no time to do homework after work, go to the activities, cook the meal, go to the grocery store...There have been so many days when I have gone to work completely exhausted.
I don't really think anyone is angry with Ann Romney one bit or lacks appreciation for how well she has raised her children in the face of her struggles with health issues. I do not think Ann Romney would even disagree with me right now. But people who go to work every single day and are the sole provider do have a different life. I used to work with low income families. One mom worked at two taco shops to make ends meet. That is all Hilary Rosen is saying. Some women have different lives.
I challenge anyone to go against me on this one.
Hilary girl and Hillary girl, ChloeLouise
by Chloelouise
As a single mom of 2 twenty something kids, 2 real old cats and one pit bull mix dog and a democrat who loves President Obama I would like to say that I admire Ann romney, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Hillary clinton, Hilary Rosen, Deborah Wasserman Schultz and all of the other strong women who give up their personal time to speak out on issues to move forward the political debate. If I do not like what they say I will not vote for them but I like to hear their ideas and information. All of my dem ideas may not be correct, they may need a republican adjustment. I'm with Karl Rove on this one--In the long run it is the political discussion that moves things forward. Bay Buchanan even came out on CNN to support Hilary Rosen. It was very noble and uplifting. Should the women completely take politics over now?
I do not like Bill Maher. I knew his big money donation would be trouble. He basically issued himself a license to let his mouth run without a filter. His goal is self promotion, not the betterment of individuals anywhere. I predict its just a matter of time before we have to suffer another insult and then listen to the media discuss it because he gave a big donation. When he insults women, particularly Sarah Palin, in this instance I take offense. What is really bad about Mr Maher is that he makes it seem cool to diminish women because he is funny. He sets the stage to get the boys to laugh at the girls. Its the wrong sentiment and we have plenty of right wing conservative radio hosts to jump on the band wagon. There is violence against women her in the US. I suggest that he finds new and less harmful material for his comedy routine. Then we had to listen to him ramble on further in the NYT about how he was in fact so funny and did not have to apologize. We paid a very high price for that donation.
Yesterday Hilary Rosen was talking about Ann Romney not actually working in a job at a facility or workplace receiving wages and every thing got so messed up.......
I'm just devastated by the fact that I am forced to disagree with some of my co-liberal dems. Believe it or not I actually like Ann Romney and I enjoy listening to her speak. The difference, for me, is a matter of time.
My daughter is still talking about the time when she was five years old and won an award, had to go up on stage all by herself--and you guessed it--I wasn't there. Why--because I could not get the time off work.
So then I spent a large part of my career being "per diem" so I could control my schedule in liew of benefits; or buy my own benefits, health insurance for the kids, which I often could not afford.
Let's see. I wonder if Ann Romney can afford health insurance or if she has time to attend the award ceremony?
I admire Ann Romney and I can't imagine raising five boys. I bet she does not have a knick-knack left standing in her house.
I heard Hillary Rosen say that comment on CNN yesterday and I knew it would be trouble. She has verified her intent of the statement talking about the actual workplace.
I'm sad about the misinterpretation for everyone. These are both fine, intelligent, well-spoken, hard working women with different political views.
And right now I'm not even going to get into trying to endure the beastliness of the other women at work.......
I have always enjoyed Hilary Rosen, particularly when she used to speak in favor of my girl, Hillary Clinton. I also want to remind people that Ann Romney has never suffered being taken into the office for "a talk." In other words, if you do not be quiet and be a cheer leader for the company, instead of verbalizing and noticing their inconsistencies, you may lose your job. So what is the decision--oh gee--I guess I'll be quiet so I will not be fired so I can pay my rent and feed my kids.
The media is way off on so many levels on this issue. Ann Romney can talk politically, at will. Most women I know cannot speak either because they do not have time or because they are in fear of losing their position and possibly their home because they are the sole provider. Ann Romney does not have to fear putting the well being of her loved ones in jeopardy because of calling in sick, getting in a fight at work, talking about the company at work, joining the union etc., etc., etc., etc.........
Ann Romney does not ever have to suffer the depression or stress of putting up with the work place. Thank God I did have children to cheer me up. Going to work for me has always been very, very hard and very, very stressful. Frankly, I am happy for Ann that she had a chance to raise her children and time to focus on their upbringing. I am sorry for her terrible illness.
Everyone is missing the point of the conversation. Hilary Rosen has even apologized, now.
I don't work now and I finally have time. My life is so incredible I can't believe it.
And also please remember what Hillary Clinton said. "I make that phone call every day at 3 o'clock to make sure my daughter got home from school safely." That was my whole life and that is the day I became a Hillary Clinton supporter no matter what.
Here is another good point. I have worked at places where they tried to force me to stay overtime and feel bad about it because I could not. I had to pick up my kids at the babysitter or daycare. You can't be late or the price skyrockets.
Its hard to have teenagers in the house all the time when you are at work.
Everything gets so mixed up because there is no time---no time to do homework after work, go to the activities, cook the meal, go to the grocery store...There have been so many days when I have gone to work completely exhausted.
I don't really think anyone is angry with Ann Romney one bit or lacks appreciation for how well she has raised her children in the face of her struggles with health issues. I do not think Ann Romney would even disagree with me right now. But people who go to work every single day and are the sole provider do have a different life. I used to work with low income families. One mom worked at two taco shops to make ends meet. That is all Hilary Rosen is saying. Some women have different lives.
I challenge anyone to go against me on this one.
Hilary girl and Hillary girl, ChloeLouise
Apr 13, 2012
In Defense Of Hilary Rosen
In Defense of Hilary Rosen
by Chloelouise
Yesterday Hilary Rosen was talking about Ann Romney not actually working in a job at a facility or workplace receiving wages and every thing got so messed up.......
I'm just devastated by the fact that I am forced to disagree with some of my co-liberal dems. Believe it or not I actually like Ann Romney and I enjoy listening to her speak. The difference, for me, is a matter of time.
My daughter is still talking about the time when she was five years old and won an award, had to go up on stage all by herself--and you guessed it--I wasn't there. Why--because I could not get the time off work.
So then I spent a large part of my career being "per diem" so I could control my schedule in liew of benefits; or buy my own benefits, health insurance for the kids, which I often could not afford.
Let's see. I wonder if Ann Romney can afford health insurance or if she has time to attend the award ceremony?
I admire Ann Romney and I can't imagine raising five boys. I bet she does not have a knick-knack left standing in her house.
I heard Hillary Rosen say that comment on CNN yesterday and I knew it would be trouble. She has verified her intent of the statement talking about the actual workplace.
I'm sad about the misinterpretation for everyone. These are both fine, intelligent, well-spoken, hard working women with different political views.
And right now I'm not even going to get into trying to endure the beastliness of the other women at work.......
I have always enjoyed Hilary Rosen, particularly when she used to speak in favor of my girl, Hillary Clinton. I also want to remind people that Ann Romney has never suffered being taken into the office for "a talk." In other words, if you do not be quiet and be a cheer leader for the company, instead of verbalizing and noticing their inconsistencies, you may lose your job. So what is the decision--oh gee--I guess I'll be quiet so I will not be fired so I can pay my rent and feed my kids.
The media is way off on so many levels on this issue. Ann Romney can talk politically, at will. Most women I know cannot speak either because they do not have time or because they are in fear of losing their position and possibly their home because they are the sole provider. Ann Romney does not have to fear putting the well being of her loved ones in jeopardy because of calling in sick, getting in a fight at work, talking about the company at work, joining the union etc., etc., etc., etc.........
Ann Romney does not ever have to suffer the depression or stress of putting up with the work place. Thank God I did have children to cheer me up. Going to work for me has always been very, very hard and very, very stressful. Frankly, I am happy for Ann that she had a chance to raise her children and time to focus on their upbringing. I am sorry for her terrible illness.
Everyone is missing the point of the conversation. Hilary Rosen has even apologized, now.
I don't work now and I finally have time. My life is so incredible I can't believe it.
And also please remember what Hillary Clinton said. "I make that phone call every day at 3 o'clock to make sure my daughter got home from school safely." That was my whole life and that is the day I became a Hillary Clinton supporter no matter what.
Here is another good point. I have worked at places where they tried to force me to stay overtime and feel bad about it because I could not. I had to pick up my kids at the babysitter or daycare. You can't be late or the price skyrockets.
Its hard to have teenagers in the house all the time when you are at work.
Everything gets so mixed up because there is no time---no time to do homework after work, go to the activities, cook the meal, go to the grocery store...There have been so many days when I have gone to work completely exhausted.
I don't really think anyone is angry with Ann Romney one bit or lacks appreciation for how well she has raised her children in the face of her struggles with health issues. I do not think Ann Romney would even disagree with me right now. But people who go to work every single day and are the sole provider do have a different life. I used to work with low income families. One mom worked at two taco shops to make ends meet. That is all Hilary Rosen is saying. Some women have different lives.
I challenge anyone to go against me on this one.
Hilary girl and Hillary girl, ChloeLouise
by Chloelouise
Yesterday Hilary Rosen was talking about Ann Romney not actually working in a job at a facility or workplace receiving wages and every thing got so messed up.......
I'm just devastated by the fact that I am forced to disagree with some of my co-liberal dems. Believe it or not I actually like Ann Romney and I enjoy listening to her speak. The difference, for me, is a matter of time.
My daughter is still talking about the time when she was five years old and won an award, had to go up on stage all by herself--and you guessed it--I wasn't there. Why--because I could not get the time off work.
So then I spent a large part of my career being "per diem" so I could control my schedule in liew of benefits; or buy my own benefits, health insurance for the kids, which I often could not afford.
Let's see. I wonder if Ann Romney can afford health insurance or if she has time to attend the award ceremony?
I admire Ann Romney and I can't imagine raising five boys. I bet she does not have a knick-knack left standing in her house.
I heard Hillary Rosen say that comment on CNN yesterday and I knew it would be trouble. She has verified her intent of the statement talking about the actual workplace.
I'm sad about the misinterpretation for everyone. These are both fine, intelligent, well-spoken, hard working women with different political views.
And right now I'm not even going to get into trying to endure the beastliness of the other women at work.......
I have always enjoyed Hilary Rosen, particularly when she used to speak in favor of my girl, Hillary Clinton. I also want to remind people that Ann Romney has never suffered being taken into the office for "a talk." In other words, if you do not be quiet and be a cheer leader for the company, instead of verbalizing and noticing their inconsistencies, you may lose your job. So what is the decision--oh gee--I guess I'll be quiet so I will not be fired so I can pay my rent and feed my kids.
The media is way off on so many levels on this issue. Ann Romney can talk politically, at will. Most women I know cannot speak either because they do not have time or because they are in fear of losing their position and possibly their home because they are the sole provider. Ann Romney does not have to fear putting the well being of her loved ones in jeopardy because of calling in sick, getting in a fight at work, talking about the company at work, joining the union etc., etc., etc., etc.........
Ann Romney does not ever have to suffer the depression or stress of putting up with the work place. Thank God I did have children to cheer me up. Going to work for me has always been very, very hard and very, very stressful. Frankly, I am happy for Ann that she had a chance to raise her children and time to focus on their upbringing. I am sorry for her terrible illness.
Everyone is missing the point of the conversation. Hilary Rosen has even apologized, now.
I don't work now and I finally have time. My life is so incredible I can't believe it.
And also please remember what Hillary Clinton said. "I make that phone call every day at 3 o'clock to make sure my daughter got home from school safely." That was my whole life and that is the day I became a Hillary Clinton supporter no matter what.
Here is another good point. I have worked at places where they tried to force me to stay overtime and feel bad about it because I could not. I had to pick up my kids at the babysitter or daycare. You can't be late or the price skyrockets.
Its hard to have teenagers in the house all the time when you are at work.
Everything gets so mixed up because there is no time---no time to do homework after work, go to the activities, cook the meal, go to the grocery store...There have been so many days when I have gone to work completely exhausted.
I don't really think anyone is angry with Ann Romney one bit or lacks appreciation for how well she has raised her children in the face of her struggles with health issues. I do not think Ann Romney would even disagree with me right now. But people who go to work every single day and are the sole provider do have a different life. I used to work with low income families. One mom worked at two taco shops to make ends meet. That is all Hilary Rosen is saying. Some women have different lives.
I challenge anyone to go against me on this one.
Hilary girl and Hillary girl, ChloeLouise
Apr 12, 2012
chip franklin...Is He For Real Or What?
chip franklin, old school dog, ultra-conserative
radio talk show host and tea-party advocate, is on the air every
morning in San Diego on KOGO 600, he rants, he raves--is he for real?
He says "call in, " but when people don't agree he chops their head off. Is he really this obtuse or is he just making a show. What do you think?
Sometimes
he wants to make a reference regarding a violent physical act to make
his point. I've found this particularly offensive when it involves
women. One time he made the suggestion that a lady should be
"body-slammed" when he disagreed with her philosophy on an issue. I
have made some comments in my posts--it seems like he may be intimidated
by strong women.
Apr 11, 2012
Mar 28, 2012
Bill Maher, Dr Drew and Hate Crime in San Diego
Here in San Diego we have a radio station with an individual that often
calls for vigilante justice to solve problems. I think this is a ploy
for ratings on this ultra-conservative, right wing radio station.
Nevertheless, it makes it seem like violence is a reasonable way to
solve problems. I have been particularly offended because the morning
shock-jock often calls for violence against women if he disagrees with
their political position. One time he wanted Gloria Allred to be "body
slammed" because he disagreed with her opinion.
When Rush, chip franklin here in San Diego, and Bill Maher keep making these kind of statements it makes women seem less than human. They say it so often, a sexual slur in the case of Bill Maher, then linking it with humor and giggling as if they are boys behind the wood shed makes it seem as if it is "cool" or trendy to insult women in this marginalizing fashion.
This element is very offensive to me. The worst part is that Maher thinks he is cool and he isn't. Even worse than that he thinks he is funny and an expert at political satire and he isn't. It certainly does not help the issue of hate crimes in San Diego.
I do not think Dr. Drew should have had Bill Maher on his show to promote his theory that apologies should not be made. "Everyone should forget it and brush it off if they disagree," he said last evening. I say "No." This just validates bad behavior towards women.
Bill Maher should apologize to Sarah Palin. All of these guys need to grow up and accept responsibility for their actions. Many people look up to Dr. Drew as an example of the proper "take" on a current situation.
We have a serious problem with hate crimes in San Diego. This kind of talk does not help the situation one bit. Now, it is as if Bill Maher bought his podium by his contribution to Barack Obama's superpac and he is totally unleashed as we recently saw in the New York Times, about which he is still proudly boasting. I think talk radio and Dr. Drew and the NYT should think two times about the social atmosphere they are promoting.
When Rush, chip franklin here in San Diego, and Bill Maher keep making these kind of statements it makes women seem less than human. They say it so often, a sexual slur in the case of Bill Maher, then linking it with humor and giggling as if they are boys behind the wood shed makes it seem as if it is "cool" or trendy to insult women in this marginalizing fashion.
This element is very offensive to me. The worst part is that Maher thinks he is cool and he isn't. Even worse than that he thinks he is funny and an expert at political satire and he isn't. It certainly does not help the issue of hate crimes in San Diego.
I do not think Dr. Drew should have had Bill Maher on his show to promote his theory that apologies should not be made. "Everyone should forget it and brush it off if they disagree," he said last evening. I say "No." This just validates bad behavior towards women.
Bill Maher should apologize to Sarah Palin. All of these guys need to grow up and accept responsibility for their actions. Many people look up to Dr. Drew as an example of the proper "take" on a current situation.
We have a serious problem with hate crimes in San Diego. This kind of talk does not help the situation one bit. Now, it is as if Bill Maher bought his podium by his contribution to Barack Obama's superpac and he is totally unleashed as we recently saw in the New York Times, about which he is still proudly boasting. I think talk radio and Dr. Drew and the NYT should think two times about the social atmosphere they are promoting.
Mar 21, 2012
Sean Hannity: I'm Just So Angry With Rush Right Now!
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| Oprah on the couch (Photo credit: JudeanPeoplesFront) |
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| Cover of Bill Clinton |
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| English: Whoopi Goldberg at the Cannes film festival. (Photo credit: Wikipedia) |
Rush Limbaugh's secret phone call to Bill Clinton.
rush limbaugh gets his ya ya's out then washes Whoopi Goldberg's feet in hopes of redemption.
Yes, rush, you were very naughty and now it is time for your discipline!
My liberal limbawdian fantasy by Chloe Louise Langendorf Louis.......
rush,
you portrayed your activities of "watching" as normal while you
debased the activities of young women as vulgar and street worthy.
In
my dream your punishment will be allocated by Whoopi Goldberg--she
said in her television special she's willing to talk about it--she is
willing to have a conversation about race and I am including women--she
doesn't mind if there is a disagreement. She is willing to answer
questions.
The limbaughing of limbaugh...............
The limbaughing of limbaugh...............
Now--we'll begin by sitting down and having a talk.
In
retribution you will get down on your knees and wash Whoopi Goldberg's
feet and listen politely as she takes her valuable time to explain to
you where you have gone wrong with women, racial slurs, the tea party,
with President Obama--and with your life in general. You'll act
interested.
You will be a guest on THE VIEW
and tell the women of America what you learned and how lucky you were
to have the opportunity to have a chat with Whoopi. It turned into a
really enlightening experience. Barbara Walters will interview you
with heartfelt questions and you will cry to show you're sorry and your
sincerity.
You'll do "Oprah's Next
Chapter" and discuss your new hobby of flower arranging and your new
life, in general. A serious discussion will continue on how getting in
touch with your feminine side has had positive effects on all of your
relationships.
You will say that health care is a right of every human
being in each appearance--not something to be bought and sold and
bantered about as an election talking point.
CNN will pick you up for a new show about multi-cultural women in the United States and around the world.
You will feature Cooking With Alia to showcase strong young women around the world. You like it as a business model and you have always wondered about the proper use of Moroccan spices.
You have Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly on your new show try to chat with them about the possibility of changing their ways--have they ever just thought about being a Democrat?
You will be heralded for developing a 12 step program for R.O.W.G.'s to promote the betterment of all people and relationships in the United States and around the world.
Your crowning glory will be to write a column for drudge to promote equal rights for women.
You disclose to Oprah in a soft voice that the giant hole in your heart has closed and you are finally able to give up food and pills as a crutch. You also reveal you are actually enjoying your new humility--you never thought you would be able to say that. Driven by fear and insecurity about your own masculinity you were hiding behind the arrogance and the pretense was becoming a burden. You will also confide to Oprah on national television that you have secretly always been jealous of Bill Clinton and you went home with a stomach-ache after that time you made fun of Hillary's hair.
Sean Hannity finally challenges you to a face-off in disgust. You reveal to Sean, you had been looking to Bill Clinton for diet and health advice for a long time. As you and Bill eventually became friends, it was hard at first, you realized that he was a great world leader and you asked him if you could make a large financial contribution to is humanitarian causes. Bill agrees to keep your new life private but urges you to publicly add your name to his cause--you finally give in and your name is glorified with other world leaders. Sean remains angry and mystified and continues to suffer from the disease of chronic and incurable self-righteousness.
Rush finally concedes to Leslie Stahl in CBS Sunday Morning exclusive, "I looked in the mirror one day and said, I'm large! and not just in radioland; frankly, Leslie, I was feeling jowly." "I heard Bill C. say he only eats things that are grown--no faces--my face was giant, and I did not want someone to eat me!"
Rush Limbaugh and Nancy Pelosi will ride together as Grand Marshall's in the Rose Parade in a final celebratory jubilee. You were honored because of the success of your anti-bullying campaign in America.
And Rush Limbaugh and Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg all lived happily ever after and Rush ended up being a frequent guest on The View.
......3 months later--bill, glen and drudge couldn't help but notice Rush's new found popularity with women (and higher ratings) and finally joined the 12 step program as followers and the world became a better place*
You will feature Cooking With Alia to showcase strong young women around the world. You like it as a business model and you have always wondered about the proper use of Moroccan spices.
You have Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly on your new show try to chat with them about the possibility of changing their ways--have they ever just thought about being a Democrat?
You will be heralded for developing a 12 step program for R.O.W.G.'s to promote the betterment of all people and relationships in the United States and around the world.
Your crowning glory will be to write a column for drudge to promote equal rights for women.
You disclose to Oprah in a soft voice that the giant hole in your heart has closed and you are finally able to give up food and pills as a crutch. You also reveal you are actually enjoying your new humility--you never thought you would be able to say that. Driven by fear and insecurity about your own masculinity you were hiding behind the arrogance and the pretense was becoming a burden. You will also confide to Oprah on national television that you have secretly always been jealous of Bill Clinton and you went home with a stomach-ache after that time you made fun of Hillary's hair.
Sean Hannity finally challenges you to a face-off in disgust. You reveal to Sean, you had been looking to Bill Clinton for diet and health advice for a long time. As you and Bill eventually became friends, it was hard at first, you realized that he was a great world leader and you asked him if you could make a large financial contribution to is humanitarian causes. Bill agrees to keep your new life private but urges you to publicly add your name to his cause--you finally give in and your name is glorified with other world leaders. Sean remains angry and mystified and continues to suffer from the disease of chronic and incurable self-righteousness.
Rush finally concedes to Leslie Stahl in CBS Sunday Morning exclusive, "I looked in the mirror one day and said, I'm large! and not just in radioland; frankly, Leslie, I was feeling jowly." "I heard Bill C. say he only eats things that are grown--no faces--my face was giant, and I did not want someone to eat me!"
Rush Limbaugh and Nancy Pelosi will ride together as Grand Marshall's in the Rose Parade in a final celebratory jubilee. You were honored because of the success of your anti-bullying campaign in America.
And Rush Limbaugh and Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg all lived happily ever after and Rush ended up being a frequent guest on The View.
......3 months later--bill, glen and drudge couldn't help but notice Rush's new found popularity with women (and higher ratings) and finally joined the 12 step program as followers and the world became a better place*
chloelouise
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One day the guy here in San Diego called for smokers at restaurants to be gunned down rather than have a new smoking law by the government. Later it was erased from the podcast. These people are creating a horrible sentiment. They make it seem like violence is an okay way to solve problems. As a dem I will also include Bill Maher in this group--his donation came with a high price. Verbal abuse is not a proper response for a political disagreement.